Reuben Saltzman

Ice Dams: how to prevent and how to remove

Ice dams are literally dams of ice that form on roofs and cause water to back up. Ice dams form when the snow that touches the roof melts, and then that water freezes again before running off the roof. This usually happens at the edges of roofs, but not always. If you’d prefer to watch a video that explains everything in this marathon blog post, I’ve created a marathon video that covers all of this: https://youtu.be/p2R7TBSKs8o. This video is a heavily-edited, stripped-down version of my one-hour class on ice dams.


Here’s a diagram showing the basics of how ice dams form, courtesy of The Ice Dam Company.

Anatomy of an ice dam

The best way to prevent ice dams from forming is to address the three factors in your attic that contribute to ice dams; attic bypasses, insulation, and ventilation.

Attic Air Leaks (aka attic bypasses)

Attic air leaks cause ice dams. In almost every house with ice dams, there will be attic air leaks directly below the beginnings of the ice dam. Attic bypasses are passageways for warmed air to enter the attic space, and traditional insulation won’t fix this. The photos below show some common attic bypasses that can be found in just about any older house. The image series below shows how an infrared camera can be used by a home inspector or energy auditor to locate these bypasses.

Air leak identified with IR camera

The photo below shows one of the largest and most common bypasses, which is the space around the furnace and/or water heater vent. Sometimes these are huge. The one shown below is relatively small, but allows a lot of air to leak up into the attic.

Bypass at furnace vent

In the photo below, you can see several holes in the top plate of a wall that were drilled for wires to pass through. These holes could all be easily filled with spray foam, but finding these holes all over the attic would be a challenge without first removing the insulation, or performing an infrared inspection with a thermal imaging camera. The insulation had to be pushed aside to find these and take this photo.

Bypasses at bore holes

With additions, the transitions between the ‘new’ and ‘old’ construction seem to always be sources of attic bypasses. The gap below was easily identified with the use of an infrared camera, but a lot of insulation had to be moved to get to the bottom of it.

Bypass at addition

When plumbing vents enter the attic, the space around the vents needs to be sealed.  This one obviously wasn’t.

Bypass at plumbing vent

Some older houses have whole-house fans that are designed to run on hot summer nights; these fans are gigantic sources of heat loss because they’re usually not insulated or sealed up. The photo below was taken from inside the attic without a flash. There’s some crazy heat loss occurring there, and as you might imagine, there was a huge ice dam nearby. No infrared camera needed to find this.

Bypass at attic fan

Old ramblers often have stairwells with nothing covering the top; you could fit an entire family into this space. It looked fine in the attic until I pulled the insulation away to show that this area was completely open.

Bypass above stairway

The space around masonry chimneys is also a notorious location for attic air leakage.

Bypass at chimney

What makes many of these attic bypasses so difficult to locate is that they’re almost always buried in insulation. Finding these buried air leaks can turn into a guessing game for someone without a lot of experience digging through attics.

If you have these types of bypasses in your attic, my recommendation is to hire an insulation contractor to seal the air leaks. They’ll know where to look and how to seal them properly. If you want to do the work yourself, download this guide from the Minnesota Department of Commerce, Attic Bypasses, and this guide from Building Science.com, Attic Air Sealing Guide and Details. These guides both give some excellent information on how to properly seal all of these air leaks yourself, and they discuss other concerns that need to be considered when performing attic air sealing, such as combustion appliance safety, knob & tube wiring, and vermiculite insulation.

If you plan to have more insulation added to your attic, have the air leaks sealed first. I can’t stress this enough. Air leaks are the driving force behind ice dams, and sealing them is far more important than having insulation added. If your home was built before about 1990, it’s almost a guarantee that you’ll have attic bypasses that need to be sealed all over the attic.

Insulation

This is a basic concept that everyone understands; you need insulation in your attic. If there are voids in the insulation, they need to be fixed. If there isn’t enough insulation, add more. The current minimum requirement for new homes in Minnesota is R-49 in the attic. This equates to about 18″ of loose fill fiberglass, depending on the manufacturer. For more information about insulation methods, see my two blog posts from last year, Attic Insulation Types and Attic Insulation Methods.

Ventilation

Having adequate ventilation for the attic space will help to keep the roof surface cold, which will help to prevent snow from melting, which will help to prevent ice dams.  Ventilation is required for attics, but it’s the last thing that should be considered when troubleshooting the causes of ice dams.

If the soffit vents are dirty, clean them or replace the grills if they’re painted shut. Grills are cheap. If soffit vents are blocked with insulation, install air chutes at the eaves to prevent the insulation from blocking the vents.

A Few More Tips

Here are a few more tips on preventing ice dams. These deal more with the design of a house than anything else.

Valleys Can’t Be Vented

Ventilation plays a small role when it comes to preventing ice dams because vents can help to lower the roof temperature. The problem with roof valleys is that they can’t be vented. If I were to design my own house, it would certainly be a big boring box with a plain hip roof; no valleys, no gables, no personality. Like the diagram below.

Plain hip roof

Valleys Should Never Meet

Valleys can’t be vented, they have a lower slope than pitched roofs, and ice from two roof surfaces gets concentrated. Ice dams are always the worst at valleys. What happens when two valleys meet each other? The potential for ice dams goes way up. From a performance standpoint, this is a horrible design.

Valleys Meeting

Oh, and don’t get me started on what this means for water management during the summer… never mind, I already blogged about that: Have Your Builder Plan for Water Management.

Don’t vent fans through the roof

What happens when bath fans, kitchen fans, and clothes dryers terminate at the roof? Snow melts when the fans run, of course. This leads to water running down underneath the snow, then freezing again at the eave, or in some cases, right in the middle of the roof.

Bath fans at roof with ice dam

This can be a major contributor to ice dams, or in the case of the photo above, can be the sole cause of ice dams. The way to avoid this is to have bath fans and kitchen fans terminate at walls, not roofs. This also applies to clothes dryers; while it has become standard practice to put laundry rooms on the second floor in new construction homes and terminate the vent at the roof, this is unquestionably a terrible place to terminate the dryer duct. It will melt a lot of snow, and there is usually no easy way to clean off the terminal. See Don’t vent your clothes dryer through the roof for more on this topic.

Oh, and whatever you do, don’t place vent terminals for bath fans, kitchen fans, or clothes dryers in a place where the melted snow will pile up in a valley. That’s almost a sure way to create ice dams, even if everything else is done properly.

How To Prevent Ice Dams from the Exterior

If you live in a 1-1/2 story home in Minnesota, you probably get ice dams. There’s not much that can be done to prevent ice dams the right way at this style of house, short of gutting the upper level and framing down, or tearing the roof off and framing up. Homes with vaulted ceilings and other inaccessible attic spaces can also be a real challenge. In these cases, ice dams may need to be controlled from the exterior.

Remove The Snow

Roof Rake

Pulling snow off the roof with a roof rake will keep ice dams to a minimum. This becomes a constant chore, but it’s better than dealing with water leaking into the house. Just raking the first several feet of snow from the eaves is typically enough to prevent the formation of ice dams, but in some cases, this will cause ice dams to form higher up on the roof. The trick is to get the shingles exposed to the sun; once that happens, the sun will warm the shingles enough to prevent ice from accumulating.

Raking snow off the roof with a roof rake is a safe way of removing snow, as long as you don’t get too close to your overhead power lines. In theory, a roof rake could cause some premature wearing of shingles by removing the aggregate, but it’s not a big concern of mine.  Some roof rakes have little wheels at the bottom that prevent the rake head from actually rubbing on the shingles. If you’re worried about damaging your shingles, get one of these. You can find this one on Amazon.

Roof Rake

While the roof rake pictured above is the most common type, there are many other variations of this designed to make the work easier; one such version is the MinnSnowta Roof Razor®.

Removing snow from the eaves is an effective way to prevent ice dams, but it won’t work 100% of the time. I have personally inspected several houses with ice dams forming right where the snow stopped being removed.  This is not typical, but it can happen during especially cold, snowy winters, like the ones we had about a decade ago. And perhaps this winter. When this happens, people start to get depressed and wonder why they live in Minnesota.

Second Ice Dam

The fix for this is to have all of the snow removed.

For two-story homes where using a roof rake from the ground isn’t practical or possible, the options are to risk your life getting up on an icy roof to shovel the snow off, hire someone else to risk their life, or install roof de-icing cables as a preventative measure.

Shoveling snow off roof

De-Icing Cables

Roof de-icing cables, also known as heat cables or heat tape, should be considered a last resort when it comes to preventing roof leaks from ice dams.  De-icing cables themselves aren’t cheap, it costs money to have them professionally installed, and they’ll cost money to operate; between five and eight watts per foot. I’ve also heard that they can damage shingles, but I’ve never seen any evidence of this.

Roof De-Icing Cables

On the flip side, de-icing cables are very effective. When de-icing cables are properly installed and operational, ice dams won’t cause leakage. De-icing cables won’t prevent the formation of ice at the eaves, but they’ll keep enough ice melted to create drainage channels for water.

If you choose to install roof de-icing cables yourself, here are a few tips:

  • Measure the areas where you need to install your de-icing cables first and buy appropriately sized cables.  For a simple 15′ section of roof with no overhang, a gutter, and one downspout with an extension, you will need a 60′ heating cable.
  • The cables should extend 12″ up the roof past the exterior wall line, through the gutters and downspouts, and 2/3 of the way up the valleys.
  • Don’t bother removing the snow from your roof; you could damage your cables, and you could potentially create another ice dam higher up on the roof, defeating the purpose of the heating cables.
  • Don’t expect the snow and ice to melt the way it does in the promotional photo above.  It’s like comparing a photo of a fast-food burger to the burger that actually comes in the fast-food bag.

If fixing the causes of ice dams isn’t a possibility and safe removal of snow isn’t possible, de-icing cables or de-icing panels may be a good choice.  Sometimes this is the most cost-effective way to prevent roof leakage from ice dams. The fine folks at The Ice Dam Company also sell them and install them.

How To Remove Ice Dams (aka Desperate Hack Methods for Removing Ice Dams When Water is Leaking into your Home)

There are plenty of ‘hack’ methods of removing ice dams, so I tried a bunch of them at my old neighbor’s house. Thanks again, Jonathan. I tried an axe, ice pick, pantyhose, salt, and heat cables… just for fun.

Let me repeat – these are all hack methods. I don’t advise any of these methods, but when people have water leaking into their home, these DIY methods are what people turn to. Hopefully, I can talk people out of doing most of these. The most effective and safe way to remove an ice dam is to hire a professional ice dam removal company that will use steam. That’s it, that’s all. Hire a professional to remove your ice dams with steam.

Axe

The most obvious way to get rid of ice dams is to take a blunt instrument and hack away at the ice dams. I tried an axe.

Axe

Pros: Fast results.  I hacked through several feet of six-inch thick ice dams in a matter of minutes.

Cons: Unsafe, cumbersome, and you’ll wreck your roof.  I had to set up a ladder on the icy ground and swing an axe while standing on a ladder. The ice also really flew in my face; I should have been wearing goggles. I was only able to remove the ice down to the gutter, and only able to get close to the surface of the roof without risking damage to the shingles. I’ve inspected dozens of roofs where someone got crazy with an axe at the eaves. It’s a great way to ruin your roof.

Verdict: This is a high-risk, yet fast and effective way of getting rid of a lot of ice, but leaves the job incomplete.  You’ll probably damage your roof doing this, and you might hurt yourself too.

Ice Pick

This sounds like a natural choice, doesn’t it? I actually used my awl, but close enough. I gave it my all.  <insert crickets chirping>

Reuben's Awl

Pros: Very fast results, very little effort. It’s as though this tool was made for picking at ice. Oh, wait…  Still, I was genuinely surprised at how fast and accurate this method was.

Cons: Unsafe. Again, I was jabbing at ice dams while standing on a ladder, which was sitting on the icy ground. I also had to be very careful not to damage the roof.

Verdict: This worked quite well… but again, you’ll probably poke a bunch of holes in your roof doing this.

Roof Tablets

Yes, this is a product designed specifically to prevent damage from ice dams. Contrary to the name on the container, the product doesn’t actually melt your roof (whew). The instructions say to toss the tablets onto your roof, and they’ll melt through the ice dams, allowing for “water to drain safely”.

Roof Melt Tablet Container

Roof Melt Tablet Instructions

Roof Melt Tablets

I tried tossing the tablets on the roof like the instructions said, but it didn’t work out very well. I consider my tablet tossing skills to be well above average, but I still couldn’t get the tablets to end up in a good location; they all just slid together in one place. If I didn’t get a ladder out to take pictures, I never would have known that the tablets didn’t end up in a good spot.

Roof Melt Tablets Tossed

Just to give the roof melt tablets the best possible chance for success, I hand-placed them on the ice dam and I used about four times as much as the directions called for. The instructions said to put them higher up on the roof, but I wanted to make some holes in this ice dam.

Roof Melt Tablets Placed Day 1

By day two, I had some pretty dramatic results; the tablets had melted all the way through the ice dam. By the way, for anyone in a southern climate that might be reading this blog, that white stuff on the ice is snow, from a very light snowfall the night before.

Roof Melt Tablets Day 2

By the third day, not much change.  There were definite holes in the ice dam, and some channels had formed for water to drain through, but the majority of the ice was still there.

Roof Melt Tablets Day 3 #2 Roof Melt Tablets Day 3 #1

Pros: If you had perfect aim and tablets didn’t move after you tossed them onto the roof, this would be very safe. Some channels were created for water to drain through, which might be enough to prevent leakage at your roof.

Cons: The tablets don’t stay where they land, which negates the whole safety thing. I still had to set up a ladder on the icy ground and move the tablets around myself. This method was also pretty ineffective; it created a bunch of holes in the ice dam, but so what? Most of the ice dam was still there in the end.

Verdict: This might be a nice way to get down to the roof surface, and it might prevent leakage from ice dams if enough channels are created for water to drain through, but you’re still left with a huge ice dam.

Salt Filled Pantyhose

Take off your pantyhose, fill ’em up with salt, and toss ’em on your roof perpendicular to the ice dams. The idea is that the salt will leak through the pantyhose and create channels for the water to drain through, preventing water from leaking into your house.

I filled one pantyhose leg with “Ice Melt”, which contained a blend of calcium chloride and rock salt. I filled another with an ice-melting salt that didn’t have the contents labeled; I suspect it was just rock salt. I also poured the Ice Melt in a perpendicular line along the ice dam, using far less salt than I used in either of the pantyhose. I did this just to compare the results.

10:00 AM (Start Time)

Salt Filled Pantyhose 10am Salt On Roof 10am

2:00 PM

Salt Filled Pantyhose 2pm Salt On Roof 2pm

4:00 PM

Salt Filled Pantyhose 4pm Salt On Roof 4pm

The pantyhose were a bit of a bust for me. With salt alone being so effective, why bother with the pantyhose? I’ve heard several opinions on this:

  • The pantyhose will contain the salt and prevent runoff. The idea is apparently to leave the pantyhose there all winter.
  • The pantyhose can be ‘flung’ onto the roof with a rope; no need for a ladder. After the work is done, you pull the pantyhose back down.
  • The pantyhose will gradually release the salt.
  • The pantyhose method works much faster if you start by pouring water on the pantyhose. I didn’t try this myself.
  • When salt alone is used, it will wash out within a week and the ice channel will freeze over again.

Pros: If you fling the stockings onto your roof from the ground, it’s pretty safe.

Cons: This takes a long time. After a week of near-zero temps, the pantyhose looked just the same. They hadn’t even made a dent. I don’t think I would have the patience to do this if I had water leaking into my house. Also, this could lead to rusted-out gutters.

Rusted Gutter

Verdict: Better than nothing.

Heat Cables

For the record, heat cables aren’t supposed to be placed directly on ice dams, but some people might try it anyway. My friend did this at a house he owned in Saint Louis Park, so I took pictures. These photos all show the heat cables after about one day.

Heat Cables #2

Heat Cables #3

Heat Cables #4

Heat Cables #6

Pros: Gets the job done eventually, I suppose.

Cons: Heat cables aren’t made for this, and I’m sure the manufacturer would tell you that this poses some type of safety hazard. Stringing up the cable was also very unsafe.

Verdict: Don’t do this. Seriously.

High-Temperature Pressure Washer

A pressure washer will certainly remove ice dams, but it will create a ridiculous ice mess below, and will surely damage the shingles.   This was one method that I didn’t even test.  The photo below shows what can happen to a roof after a pressure washer or high-temp pressure washer is used on a roof.

Pressure washer ice dam removal

There is a big difference between a steamer and high-temperature pressure washer. I show a couple of examples in my video at the beginning of this post. Don’t let anyone come near your roof with a high-temperature pressure washer.

Conclusion

Ice dams suck. If you have water coming through your ceiling in the dead of winter, it’s not a problem with your roof, it’s a building science issue. You either have an ice dam or you have frost in your attic. Follow the advice given here to fix your ice dams.

Author: Reuben SaltzmanStructure Tech Home Inspections

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43 responses to “Ice Dams: how to prevent and how to remove”

  1. Tim Copeland
    February 12, 2019, 7:29 am

    good article. i wondered why you said you would have no gable ends on your ideal roof. the reason for no valleys is explained, but not the reason for no gables. thanks.

  2. Reuben Saltzman
    February 12, 2019, 9:34 am

    Hi Tim,

    Good question. I don’t like gable end walls on homes because there is no protection to the exterior walls from rain. When you have large overhangs on homes, the potential for water intrusion is dramatically decreased.

  3. Indawg
    March 1, 2019, 9:13 pm

    That, and those things are wasp nest magnets. Stupid wasps.

  4. Robert
    February 12, 2019, 8:24 am

    Hi,
    Question. What do you do or can do when your bath vents that terminate on the roof slope get covered up with snow. Will that cause the snow to leak thru the inside/outside of the vent hose that goes to the bath fan??

  5. Reuben Saltzman
    February 12, 2019, 9:32 am

    Hi Robert,

    No worries, just turn on your fan. The warm exhausting air will melt the snow. It’s very rare to have snow leaking in through bath fan terminals. That’s not to say it can’t happen… but it’s definitely a rare occurrence.

  6. Doug
    February 12, 2019, 9:18 am

    Axes? Awls?? Salt-filled Panty hose? Thank you for making me more grateful for living in the South! (although we have our own set of issues down here). 🙂

  7. Reuben Saltzman
    February 12, 2019, 9:30 am

    Right? Makes me want to live down South too…

  8. Chandra
    February 12, 2019, 10:26 am

    Thank you for this timely article Reuben! We just bought our first home in Twin Cities area and stupidly haven’t checked the roof for ice dam until today. The house has vaulted ceiling too…

    We found ice dams and huge icicles where the house roof meets/hangs over the attached garage roof: Proving your point about valleys. Lesson learned on diligently raking the snow off the roof going forward.

    Also thanks for trying different hacks and posting results! We are getting a roof rake and Roof Melt to see if we can make some passageways for melted snow to travel down, so that we can at least avoid water damage. If it doesn’t work I will call the pros… Fortunately, it will stay cold for a while!

  9. Reuben Saltzman
    February 12, 2019, 3:13 pm

    Hi Chandra,

    I hope you caught them before they caused any leaks.

  10. Joseph Giffen-Hunter
    February 12, 2019, 11:17 am

    What do you think about re-titling the section, “How To Prevent Ice Dams from the Exterior” with a bold, “Desperate Hack Methods for Removing Ice Dams When Water is Leaking into your Home”?

  11. Reuben Saltzman
    February 12, 2019, 11:25 am

    Done and done 🙂

  12. Joseph Scaduto
    February 12, 2019, 2:49 pm

    Hi Reuben,

    Great article – as usual.
    Keep up the important information sharing.
    Was wondering why no mention of ice belt metal panels?
    Here in New England it is common to find on houses with ice dam problems.
    Installed professionally takes care of any possible snow melt entry to the interior of a building.

    Once more – your blogs are the absolute – BEST!
    Joe Scaduto

  13. Reuben Saltzman
    February 12, 2019, 3:12 pm

    Hi Joseph,

    Thank you! I’ve seen pictures of ice belt metal panels, but never actually seen one installed. I’m sure they’re effective, but they’re too rare to be worth a mention here in Minnesota.

  14. Jeff
    February 13, 2019, 9:15 am

    Ironic timing, there are ice damns everywhere right now in my mpls neighborhood. I noticed my gutters are filled solid with ice and ice inside the soffits even after roof raking after each storm. Apparently I didn’t get to it in time yesterday after the snowfall. I notice ice coming down from my 1/2 story home’s soffits and some water/ice coming down the siding and maybe even from behind the siding (some brown water). Is there anything that I can do about water/ice build up inside my soffit right now? I assume the water is overfilling my gutters and backing up behind the gutter and into the soffit gap where the roof and the soffit meet. If water is getting behind the siding (hardie), is it ruined? I didn’t see any water in the crawl spaces coming from the roof/shingles or water inside my home.

    Thanks!

  15. Reuben Saltzman
    February 13, 2019, 10:50 am

    Hi Jeff,

    For water that’s already inside of your soffit, you might consider drilling a few small test holes in the areas where you think you have standing water, to simply allow the water to drain out.

    If water gets inside your wall, nothing is necessarily ruined. Walls are fairly resilient. They can stand getting wet once in a while… most of the time. It really depends on how old your house is. Old, leaky houses tolerate this quite well. New, tight houses don’t have much tolerance.

    Also, to help prevent further leakage, get rid of those ice dams.

  16. Jeff
    February 13, 2019, 12:05 pm

    Sorry, I met to say water is filling the soffit by coming into the gap at the facia and roof board (behind the gutter). Based on how gutters are installed, there is simply a flashing under the shingles that is then bent down into the gutter, there is nothing to seal the facia and roof board in the event that the gutter overfills with water and ice.

  17. Jeff
    February 13, 2019, 10:27 am

    What about steam removal from a company? This looks like the only real solution once it’s “too late”…

  18. Reuben Saltzman
    February 13, 2019, 10:51 am

    Steam removal is definitely the best option.

  19. Nancy
    February 17, 2019, 9:32 am

    Do you have any recommendations for a steam removal provider for a home on the east side of St Paul?

  20. Sarah Greenig
    February 13, 2019, 1:14 pm

    We have two bathroom exhaust fans that are exiting through the roof in the same area and we leave them on a lot. They melted the snow near the vents on the roof and formed an icicle on the roof line right under them. We are going to try to move the snow/ice near the vents. How do we prevent this from happening again? Is it better not to leave the fans running so much?

  21. Reuben Saltzman
    February 13, 2019, 1:27 pm

    It’s good to have those fans running, because it helps to reduce humidity in your home, which is definitely a good thing. To help reduce the potential for ice dams caused by those bath fans, I recommend relocating the bath fans to terminate at a gable wall, provided that’s an option.

  22. Sarah Greenig
    February 13, 2019, 5:43 pm

    Do you have any idea who we would contact to relocate fan vents to the wall? I think my entire neighborhood has venting through the roof.

  23. Reuben Saltzman
    February 14, 2019, 5:04 am

    Hi Sarah, I’d probably start by calling a handyman. It’s not super technical work. If you can’t find a handyman to do this for you, you’ll need to move on to an HVAC contractor.

  24. Steve Mattix
    February 13, 2019, 2:41 pm

    Very informative!

    How do you define if you have a problem? We have always had icicles on some areas of our roof, but no internal water damage (I think..). Or think about it this way, nearly every house in my neighborhood has snow on the roof and overhangs with some icicles. Are we all accruing damage or are there other factors?

    Thanks

  25. Reuben Saltzman
    February 13, 2019, 3:07 pm

    Hi Steve,

    Icicles at the edge of the roof don’t indicate a problem. Ice or water showing up anywhere else does. For example, if you have ice showing up on the siding or between the soffits and fascia, that’s a problem.

  26. Mike
    February 14, 2019, 10:52 pm

    Hi Reuben,

    Can you recommend an insulation contractor that you trust? I live in the Southwest metro. I noticed during the last warmup that we had a bunch of water leaking through the attic soffit vents so I feel like it’s an insulation issue. Thanks!

  27. Reuben Saltzman
    February 15, 2019, 5:21 am

    Hi Mike,

    I’ve had great experiences with Atticus. Houle is another good company here in town.

  28. Scot Pekarek
    February 22, 2019, 4:47 pm

    Best blog entry ever on this topic. Kudos Reuben!

  29. Reuben Saltzman
    February 22, 2019, 5:19 pm

    Thanks Scot!

  30. Nick Born
    February 26, 2019, 11:53 am

    Regarding aluminum roof rakes and how they can wear on your shingles: go to your local AutoZone and buy a pack of those little stick-on plastic channels that are designed to protect the edge of your car doors from chipping. Take your roof rake inside to get it warm, warm up one of those plastic channels with a hair dryer, and press it over the bottom edge of the roof rake. Use the hair dryer liberally to form the channel to the edge of the rake and make sure the glue inside the channel melts to give a good bond. Now, for less than $5, your shingles are protected from the roof rake by a sacrificial plastic edge! Use the rest of the strips in the pack next winter when the first edge wears off.

  31. Sebastian
    March 2, 2019, 3:14 pm

    Thank you! This was extremely helpful!!

  32. Rick Meier
    March 2, 2019, 4:03 pm

    Hi Rueben,
    Great article and video! I have a problem with paint peeling in my
    bathroom, above the tile, along my bathtub shower wall. After watching your video on ice dams, I’m wondering if it may be related
    to attic bypass from this bathroom wall? I look forward to your
    response.
    Rick

  33. Reuben Saltzman
    March 13, 2019, 4:32 am

    Hi Rick,

    It’s possible that your peeling paint is the result of attic bypasses. If the wall stayed unusually cold, and was cold when you painted it, that might happen. More likely, however, is that water is sitting on the tops of the tiles and soaking into the wall. Could that be what’s happening? I’m just making guesses without seeing any pictures.

  34. tyler sanden
    March 8, 2019, 9:11 am

    Reguarding the panty hoes ice melt works great. You need to get it going first. You put a pile of salt granules on the ice dam first, then lay sock over it. Don’t pore water over the sock it doesn’t make the sock last very long.If its thick ice like 6″ plus I chip it down.

  35. Russell
    March 12, 2019, 3:44 pm

    Everyone says not to use a hot water pressure washer to remove ice dams because it will damage the shingles, but in all their youtube videos they have the 40 degree tip installed and only 1-2 inches from the shingle with a 4000 psi 4 gpm pressure washer! what did they think was going to happen?

  36. Mollie
    March 12, 2019, 7:53 pm

    Hi Reuben,
    Thanks for this great article! We had a few ice dams and only got to half of the house before they have started to leak into our home. We have a steam ice dam removal company coming in a day to rid the remaining dams. We will need some repair work – do you have any company recommendations for the ceiling repair? We also know we need to do more insulation so we will be using your recommendations above for that service.

  37. Reuben Saltzman
    March 13, 2019, 4:30 am

    Hi Mollie,

    For repair work, I recommend 24 Restore: https://24restore.com/ For insulation, I recommend Atticus: https://atticusinsulation.com/

  38. Tom K
    April 11, 2019, 9:16 am

    Hey Rueben,

    I was hoping I may be able to handle installing heat cable myself this summer. The back side of my 1.5 story house is all one slope with no valley’s so that one would be straight forward.

    However the front side does have a couple valley’s that made some pretty horrific ice dams with this 2019 February downfall. We had all of the bad signs mentioned in your video even with roof raking regularly.

    The first thing I did was have insulation work done when I bought my home but that has not done a whole lot for us unfortunately.
    So my question is who do you recommend for installing the heat cable since that may be what is needed in my situation?

  39. Reuben Saltzman
    April 11, 2019, 9:21 am

    Hi Tom,

    I recommend The Ice Dam Company for professional installation of heat cables. https://www.icedamcompany.com/

  40. J
    January 10, 2023, 10:32 am

    We had a metal roof installed, with rigid insulation under roof deck. Was hoping new insulation below roof deck would help but we still get bad ice dams. Hopefully we avoid the freeze issues with shingles/ice creeping under.

    Unfortunately, my attic is not vented well, 1.5 story knee walls, near impossible attic access and loose fill insulation on the attic floor making air ceiling a tough job. Live and learn…

  41. Reuben Saltzman
    January 10, 2023, 12:50 pm

    Your metal roof should be enough to prevent leaks (fingers crossed).

  42. David
    January 12, 2023, 10:43 am

    What about pumping some hot air into the eaves area?

  43. Reuben Saltzman
    January 12, 2023, 12:36 pm

    Hi David,

    Pumping hot air into the eaves might prevent ice dams, but there would be a huge energy penalty to pay. It would be far more economical to use de-icing cables.

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